the only plan that i think i've supported is the paul ryan bill, which reduces the deficit, brings down the debt, doesn't raise taxes, and it's a plan that mr. chambliss voted for. so i think they caught im, and he said things that didn't make sense. what i have been urging all candidates to do, is to look at the fiscal cliff. we need to have any negotiations about raising taxes or deferring spending restraint, obama wants to spend more on stimulus spending, and to raise taxes. if whatever we discuss needs to be in front of cspan cameras so every american knows exactly what both sides are saying. >> has he talked to you about this? have you had any type of a conversation about it? if you look at this, the question is whether he is reading the cards and asking himself what position he needs to be in in the next reelection campaign. >> well, chambliss was part of what was called the gang of six, three republicans and three democrats that tried to take the simpson bowles outline, and they could not come to an agreement. they wanted all tax increases and no spending restraint, so that did n